Yes I am 'Elf'. My friends have called me that for many many years now.
I was orignally elf@illinoispagans.org elf@illinoispagans.org>
and elf@illinoispagans.com elf@illinoispagans.com> . My wife,
Brigantia, and I worked on things as far as the list is concerned as a
team. She registered the internic name in her name when we got the idea
because she was at the computer already.
As for the story, aside from a few extra details, its pretty complete
and to the point. The extra details aren't worth mentioning at this
point. I was told by a few that there were people on my side of this,
whatever that means. I do know some went out and researched public
documents and talked to the police who came to my condo as well.
Can't say from the writing style that I can ID your person but they do
know a great considerable amount of information it seems. Its good the
author asked for concealment and that you abided by it, shows some level
of trust in my opinion, but hey what do I know :)
As for the lists I stay out of them except for one I started on
Interfaith called Magickal-Intentioneering. Since I am not Wiccan I
don't do purely Pagan stuff. I deal with philosophies as well as a great
deal of many other things. My new website is not up yet and the list is
small. At one point I had started it before the big fiasco and Ed was
actually on it.
He had stated to me about how many pagans are in this area, about how to
bilk them for money, and how to send it to Africa to pay for a resort he
agreed in good faith to be part owner on. He also wanted to be "THE"
persona of Pagans in the Illinois/Chicago area.
As for his morals? Well, no man who walks in between anothers
relationship with his spouse will ever gain respect from me. He had no
right to walk in on me like that. He did so because after meeting us he
wanted what I had, I had a good wife, and a life. So he decided to step
in, he is Wiccan however, Corellian(sp?) and they do have the "An it
harm none..." rule. So much for that eh?
In my opinion he is back stabbing the community for his own purposes and
its ashame that they don't open their eyes before he does it to them
rather than after. But what can one do?
Hope this answers your questions.
-----Original Message-----
From: demipagan@mailtag.com
Sent: Mon 3/19/2001 9:31 AM
To: Dane S. Weddle
Cc:
Subject: Not a JOKE
Two questions : 1. Are you "Elf", formerly the webmaster for the
IllinoisPagans sight, and formerly the list owner for Il-Pagans
? 2. Is the
story below, true ? This letter was sent to me, and I am
forwarding it to
you for confirmation. At the request of its author, I am
concealing his
identity.
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"Now, I and Pat have both received e-mails to the
effect that you did
a squeeze play on Elf, and are now involved in the
Illinoispagans
site. Whether this is actually the truth, or something
you put one of
your friends up to telling us, in the hope that one of
us would snap
at the bait, is a mystery that I have neither the time
nor the
inclination to try to resolve. It is a typical example
of why so
many are cutting out, though. You and your friends
have time for
these games. The rest of us do not."
I can assure you that I am in way associated with Ed
nor has he put anyone up to it. I can bear witness to
what Ed has done to Elf as well as others. I will not
reveal who I am or how I got the information, but in
good faith will provide plenty of it as long as you
keep this identity secret, pagan to pagan.
As it stands Ed went to visit Elf and Brigantia to ask
them to work with an 'elite' group and be his new web
people because frankly his work sucked. They took some
time to think about it. Meanwhile Ed asked Elf if he
could have his wife as a 'slave' to use for sexual
BDSM things outside of the business relationship. Elf
preferred no but was willing to hear his wife out
first. Ed returned to talk again at their place at
which time they asked everyone to grab some liquor
from the store and people were drinking. When
Brigantia began to ignore her husband and ran around
in panties in front of Ed she was asked to remove Ed
from the premise. From there she became upset and Ed
continued to aggrevate it. He assisted her in calling
the police and saying Elf was a threat to people and
they came and put him in hospital. On the police
report, available to the public, Ed and Brigantia were
both asked if Elf was armed by police, both refused to
reply to the cops. The cops then became rough with Elf
not knowing if he was armed which led to him having to
go to surgery a week later. While Elf was in hospital
Ed admitted to a friend of Elf's that he was the
'catalyst' for all of this and that he was interested
in Elf's wife. Ed convinced her to leave Elf at which
time she began a legal fight, removed him from
Illinois Pagans which both had run for its whole
existence of about 3 years. The website was a success
because they worked in the web industry and knew what
to do. Now Ed seems to think its success is his doing
when in fact its success led him to ask for help with
his pathetic site.
As an investigator to find out if this was all try I
myself have gotten all public copies of the police
report, etc involving what Ed has done to Elf. I can
guarantee this not a sick joke, nor something Ed is
even smart enough to do. He's a con artist and he is
going to take the community for what he can.
If you really are concerned about if this is truth you
can contact Elf as his original companies email, he
ran a web hosting service which actually hosted
Illinois Pagans before they decided to not pay for
service, the company is called NeonKnights. The email,
the last one that I used to communicate with him on,
is dweddle@neonknights.net , find out for yourself
what is true or isn't true by merely asking Elf
yourself.
(end of message)
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To put your mind a little at ease, I hope ...
I am a Pagan. I am not one of the elders, or other members of
Ed's
clique. Somebody sent me this, and suggested that I write to you
to ask if this was true. OK, is it ? Just want to know the
truth.
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